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  Quote akdub Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Topic: Cam Adjusters - Hilite International
    Posted: 13-Nov-2008 at 17:45
I've said this before, but...Lifetime free factory oil changes on my car. Almost every oil change performed by the dealer, full synth of course, 3-5k mile oil changes; experienced the failure at 51,000 miles - fixed temporarily with Seafoam. The W8 is suseptible to this failure because of its design, not because of owner negligence. If you are lucky enough to live in a geographic area that causes less stress to the vehicle (extreme high or extreme low temps, etc) you may be able to avoid the problem. Same thing with the Torque converter - surely that's not the owner's fault is it (mine failed at 25 thousand miles, btw). Think of this-for every one of us that reported the problem on this site how many others traded the car at first sign of impending disaster; how many others had warranty work performed who weren't familiar with this site; how many paid out of pocket for the repair who weren't familiar with this site. For every one reported I'm betting their are tons that got screwed and went un-reported. Some of the bigger dealers on the west coast have performed multiple changes of this component. Their weren't many of these cars produced. (no disrespect meant, but) - Do the math!
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  Quote R32Viper Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16-Nov-2008 at 01:41
I did the Math and I guess the best solution will be seafoam evrytime you change the oil HE HE HE HE. That should fix it, I lately been doing an amsoil Engine flush and evrytime I put the new oil in and drive it feels like I gain a lot of hp back I will start doing it regurlarly.

I got this question what about the screen, What about if it breaks in little pieses can the motor work without the screen? If thats so, why not remove it before any damage occur?

Is it any possibility that when the screen breacks the particles will end it up being on the oil filter?

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  Quote akdub Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16-Nov-2008 at 14:25
The screens are in front of the moving parts in the cam assembly. If the screen tears it will likely get stuck in the cam assembly and cause the p011 or p022. If the screens are removed completely I'm betting the system would still run, but for how long I don't know. But thats a guess - I'm no engineer.
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  Quote Marco Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18-Nov-2008 at 16:00
I've been reading, here and elsewhere, about seafoam and AMSOIL flush. I'm a great fan of AMSOIL, using the 5-40 European synthetic for some time now. However, having flushed other cars and seen the gunk coming out, I am really leery of flushing my W8 and having my screens jammed as a consequence. I've got about 73K, change oil every 5K and filter every 10K. I've not gotten the code yet, but am afraid to flush for fear of spoiling a (so far) good thing. Could we please have more discussion of the ups and downs of flushing? Thanks, Marco
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  Quote akdub Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18-Nov-2008 at 19:03
As you fear, you run the risk of breaking free a lot of gunk and particulate and sending it downstream. I'm not sure I'd recommend it except as a last resort. If you choose to flush then I would run extremeely short oil change intervals in the hope of replacing contaminated oil with fresh oil quickly. In my case the Seafoam worked wonders for the first 150 miles, then everything went to hell in a handbasket shortly thereafter. Back on topic...call Hilite and ask what they would recommend. It is, after all, their screens and their cam adjuster assembly that is/are getting gunked and failing. You guys need to start putting pressure on the part manufacturer and VW. Good luck.
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  Quote fitzski Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18-Nov-2008 at 19:41
Originally posted by akdub

The screens are in front of the moving parts in the cam assembly. If the screen tears it will likely get stuck in the cam assembly and cause the p011 or p022. If the screens are removed completely I'm betting the system would still run, but for how long I don't know. But thats a guess - I'm no engineer.


I was thinking removing the screens would be the best bet, especially if the design intent was to filter production debris. After the engine has been broken in, removing the screens would seem logical - both to clean out said debris, and to promote better oil flow.

Do we know for a fact that people who have had the repair work done still have screens installed?

There's yet to be any clarification on running changes to any parts, correct? I wonder if screen removal was a running change...

And no, I'm no engineer either...
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  Quote R32Viper Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 23-Nov-2008 at 15:52
Originally posted by fitzski

Originally posted by akdub

The screens are in front of the moving parts in the cam assembly. If the screen tears it will likely get stuck in the cam assembly and cause the p011 or p022. If the screens are removed completely I'm betting the system would still run, but for how long I don't know. But thats a guess - I'm no engineer.


I was thinking removing the screens would be the best bet, especially if the design intent was to filter production debris. After the engine has been broken in, removing the screens would seem logical - both to clean out said debris, and to promote better oil flow.

Do we know for a fact that people who have had the repair work done still have screens installed?

There's yet to be any clarification on running changes to any parts, correct? I wonder if screen removal was a running change...

And no, I'm no engineer either...


GOOD Point anybody has a response to that?
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  Quote gforce Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30-Nov-2008 at 12:07
It seems that maybe it would be better to look for something less aggressive than Seafoam. Does anyone know of an approved synthetic oil with a good detergent package? Or maybe a lower dose of Seafoam?

I'm thinking that slowly dissolving the gunk would avoid big chunks that could plug up the screens, but still get caught by the oil filter would be best.

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  Quote squish Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30-Nov-2008 at 19:42
Originally posted by gforce

I'm thinking that slowly dissolving the gunk would avoid big chunks that could plug up the screens, but still get caught by the oil filter would be best.


that seems like a reasonable plan
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  Quote R32Viper Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01-Dec-2008 at 12:20
Well I being using a liter of Amsoil Flush and using amsoil oil also. Just a liter for 9 quartz of oil, it suppost to be 2 liters for 4 quartz of oil. Lets see if it helps.
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